It can grow over 20 m tall. Where along Florida's east coast does zone 10 really end? & Drude - Bangalow palm, piccabeen palm Alex palms were burned and young ones killed in SouCal last year in areas where Kings did fine. Archontophoenix alexandrae is a tall and slender palm more commonly known as the Alexander Palm. Preferred habitat. What a surprise -- I love the boldness of your colour choice for the couch/sectional. But,some very well cared for,fast growing Kings seem to have a near identical crownshaft and light colored trunk. Spreading weird. If you have any information about this plant, please help by updating this article. Not until you reach tropical zone 11 Cabo San Lucas at the southern tip of Baja California do they grow that easily.Just to help explain the difference in Alex palm growing on the west coast and Florida or Texas. It does best when shaded from the hot afternoon sun by neighbouring tall trees. Species include: Archontophoenix alexandrae (F.Muell.) I could be wrong. Family: - Synonym: Seaforthia elegans Botanical Pronunciation: ar-kon-toe-FEE-nix cun-ing-HAME-ee-ah I'm hoping light tiles will brighten up the room since it is a lot of dark wood and I'm adding more floor to ceiling cabinets. See more ideas about Growers, Palm, Plants. Leaves: Pinnate to 2-3 m long, with a rachis that twists near the midpoint and linear leaflets growing in a single plane. The Alex has a larger greener crownshaft and without counting,Seems to have slightly more pinnae per frond. I haven't seen any Kings around town but I decided to give it a shot. A. cunninghamiana also is the only Archontophoenix "Growing along the Steve Irwin way up from where I … Archontophoenix alexandrae, which is taller, has a more swollen base, and has a silvery rather than green undersurface on the leaflets. : Moderate Typical Height: 40' OA. "Growing along the Steve Irwin way up from where I live. Jax beach would not have seen anywhere near 24 this winter though. Aren't the common name Alexander and King actually the same palm? It's sometimes very puzzling to figure out where a zone begins and ends in Florida. Now,over the roof,it is all day sun. I grow both of these palms and I can tell you they are almost exactly the same when it comes to cold hardiness. It gets much colder west of here. Native to Eastern Australia, often found in wet areas. Alex palms fronds have silvery undersides as the one big difference between the two. If that is the case I wonder why they are not as common as other palms in stores i.e. Happy Easter to you. They look great. Every palm tree is close to my heart and is like my family, just like every human or animal on Earth. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (formerly Seaforthia elegans) - King Palm King Palms have a showy canopy of bright green, leathery fronds and are a popular choice for tropical gardens, pool areas and lining neighborhood streets. A very popular palm from Australia with grass green, feather-shaped leaves with silver undersides and slender crownshafts. Leaves: Pinnate, 2.5-3 m long, with drooping, linear leaflets growing in a single plane. Sometimes I don't know if I'm a zone 8b, 9a, or even 9b? Fyi..the HD on Atlantic and at Regency both had Triple 7 gallons for sale for $49. Iliwarra here isnt hardier to lower temps,it has the ability to grow fast in areas of very cool summers like San Francisco.The growing season for it is longer in marginal climates.And I imagine in Florida a Alex palms greater hardiness to winter cold is that they are much more vigorous growers in Florida's hot summers.Here,in a cooler 10a climate that hardiness isnt carried over into the winter as it is with King palms.Not that Alex palms wont grow in the bay area,they just wouldnt be the first pick. Why? Thanks for sharing the fantastic photos with us. The red to pink, ovoid fruits are 1-1.5 cm long and have remnants of the stigma at the apex. Also don't Kings have a low salt tolerance? They are NOT common here. might be too many circles, agreed. They were planted this month but while they were still potted, they took several 30 degree mornings without damage (planted in a south facing area). Thanks for the info ya got to love those kings ! Rarely growing to more than 3m, this smoothstemmed, medium-sized palm is extremely decorative and ideal for swimming pool areas and small gardens. Multiple old and new inflorescences may remain on the stem and spiral around it. Photo by Wal. Alexandra, go for it...you'll never regret it. east coast barrier islands are bordering on 10a(maybe 9b) all the way to Georgia. Jax beach has been a solid 9b/10a for the past several years. Here's the fat trunk on my King/Bangalow. (Wal). These are A.cunninhamiana's {{gwi:1116111}}These are A.alexandrae{{gwi:1116112}}, Heres one of the ones that was in the shade house (a.alexandrae). You will get almost a 100 percent germination on good seed.I think A.alexandrae is a nicer looking palm but cunninghamiana can be nice to if kept out of full sun and the wind. The thing is..my palms were never in complete shade..it was always part shade with a few hours of direct sun..then it became the fronds in sun,the trunks in shade. I thought the Illawara's could take a couple degrees lower than all Kings? How come A/c trunks in the Photo # 8 are so zebra? I've grown kings in the ground here in Jax for a few years. This plant can be weedy or invasive according to the authoritative sources noted below.This plant may be known by one or more common names in different places, and some are listed above. Kuninga ja kuninganniku pealmäed on paljude perekondade (arecaceae) kuningate ja kuningannate palmide monarhide hulgas paljud usa maa-ala põllumajanduskindluse tsoonide 9b-11 maastikud. ARCHONTOPHOENIX CUNNINGHAMIANA, The more Common form of King Palm Common Name(s): Piccabeen Palm, Bangalow Palm, Common King Palm Native Locality: Eastern coast of Australia from Queensland south to New South Whales. Seeds for sale starting at € 5.50. This is a very interesting thread. Without even trying the alex palm,I dont see why if your planting outdoors in a marginal climate giving time and space to the Alex palm when a single night of(or two) 32F could kill it and a King could take almost 10F degrees lower and live..and 32F leaves no damage to a King.If your in a nice warm climate,no freezes ever..then the Alex is the better looking so,that would be the preference-and don't be surprised if 99% of your guests can't tell the difference-lol, Area rug and coffee table for open concept living room. Ed, I was playing around with that Sherwin Williams tool and it is pretty neat! Stems: Solitary, slender, gray, to 15 m tall and up to 25 cm in diameter, bulging at the base, with ridged, "stair-step" rings of leaf scars. Most southern species Overall Height: In habitat up to 60 feet but domestic plants usually 35 to 40 feet Trunk Diameter: 9 to 12 inches, gray and … Are you going to try a Royal in the ground next? Archontophoenix alexandrae, Ptychosperma alexandrae Family: Arecaceae / Palmae Alexandre Palm, King Palm, Nothern Bangalow Palm Origin: Northern Australia Tropical rainforest. Oh,I got word from experts that my palms will only bloom once they reach full sun. It is similar to the Alexandra Palm (A. alexandrae ) which has slivery underside to the leaves, creamy white flowers and a more swollen base. Nearly 15 years- at least 13,after planting it. If they are fresh they will germinate in a few weeks to a few months. Frond leaflets are broader than those of Archontophoenix alexandrae, trunk is … We are the local chapter of the Palm and Cycad Society of Florida. In a tropical climate, A alexandraes grow faster and get taller... opposite is the case in a more temperate climate. stanofh you are correct in saying there is a difference in the cold between California and Fl. This is a very similar palm to Archontophoenix alexandrae in both appearance and size (it gets to about 25 metres (80 feet) tall with a spread of about 2 - 2.5 metres (10 - 15 feet)). Once you are registered you can contribute, change, or correct the text, and even add photos on this page. I have heard the word king palm for alexandrae also so I guess that it is also correct to call it that.I have grown both of these from seeds and they are almost the same in how fast they grow also.They both can take temps in the 20s probably mid to a little higher depending on the palm and occasionally someone will have one that will take lower 20s but not often.They can take some frost but not much. Given a shady spot, they grow slim and elegant, holding a crown of dark green leaves above a green crownshaft. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana H.Wendl. Birds nest fern with 1' of trunk and 5' fronds. I have a small Illawara in the ground (Jax) that seems to be doing good so far this winter. Similar looking to A. cunninghamiana (Bangalow palm) but leaves are silver underneath and a more tropical appearance. Sunshine Coast, Hinterland, Queensland, Australia. Its flower colour is violet and the red fruits are attractive to birds. Let me know if you'd like information about the First Coast Palm Sociaety. Welcome to the PACSOA Palms and Cycads wiki ! They prefer full sun but also tolerate partial shade. People in the bay area love King palms,most here not knowing they will grow here even as they are in awe over their exotic looks. williamr you make some great points. The Alexander Palm (A. alexandrae) from northern Queensland is found commonly in our region and is gradually dominating the Piccabeen Palm habitat. Cool !Thanks for the info i am germinating some king right now. Lots of differences: A alexandrae has a stepped trunk while cunninghamiana trunks are relatively smooth (still ringed, but not in 3-D really); A alexandrae palms are much more cold sensitive, handling temps into the high 20s barely in So Cal, while A cunninghamianas do OK down to the mid 20s, though some burn may occur on both depending upon wind or lack thereof- this is why A alexandrae palms are relatively rare in California (struggle to survive in most areas) but extremely common in tropical climates, while the opposite seems to be the case with A cunninhamiana- VERY common in California (do great in most areas of So California) but hardly seen in some place like Hawaii; A alexandrae leaves have whitish coloration on the underside- A cunninghamianas tend to be green on both surfaces; A alexandrae palm leaves arch or a flat in appearance, while A cunninghamianas often tilt/twist 90 degrees so that leaves are perpendicular to the ground (this is not 100%); A alexandrae flowers are white while cunninghamiana flowers are lavender. From Pacsoa. They look like they're in a great spot, good luck with them. I live about five miles from the coast and the lowest temp i've seen so far is 29. Maybe I should have said leaflets not pinnae. Al-exander palm also has a bright green or light green crownshaft, while in Bangalow palm it is dark green, Archontophoenix alexandrae is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics.If you would like to participate, visit the project page. If you've seen those purple Oxalis for sale that might offer scale..but its fat. Great looking palms tag ! Photograph courtesy of Montgomery Botanical Center http://www.montgomerybotanical.org/. thanks so much for doing this, its very helpful to see the layout. We do have occasional bad freezes but we usually rebound back to the 70s in a few days.This year has been quite warm with temps in the 80s several days in dec Jan. tagfcps your Kings look great! Oct 15, 2016 - Explore Landscape Architect's board "Archontophoenix cunninghamiana" on Pinterest. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana It usually grows quite near the coast in damp, woody areas of Eastern Australia up to 1000m. Thus it is often better suited to more sheltered areas, while A. alexandrae can take more sunny positions. Why is my lady palm not growing upright or together? It’s a cold-hardy, fast-growing and relatively low-maintenance plant. Mature plants may take brief periods of 28F. The leaves, which have paler stalks, are bright green above and below, although there can also be brown scales underneath. Several of us have kings and many other zone pushers in the ground. I've seen photos of those palms in Los Angeles with their near sun bleached white trunks. I have several different archontophoenix and they all are nice looking palms and tougher than people say.They can grow indoors with good light and humidity helps. Maybe you are removing them all over Canada because it's freezing up there and drab most of the year...you need all the sunlight you can get! The crown shaft is up to 1 m long, somewhat swollen at the base, and varying in color from green to dull purplish-brown. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. What kind of King are you growing in the ground? However, the leaf undersides of Alexander palm are silvery-grey in colour while those of Bangalow palm are pale green and have scaly outgrowths. Stanofh, that is great, but 15 years.... how long does it usually take? I think I'm too liberal with the fertilizer and water. Yes, I'm in Jax, FL. Can you post photos of your palms? Young Archontophoenix trees will not tolerate frost, but adult plants may stand 28 F (-2 C) (Brenzel 1995). David is also conservative in his zone statement..in the background he has a perfect Coconut palm. Wendl.) Guess your proving it possible. The A.cunninghamiana var illwarra is not been proven to be anymore cold hardy than A.cunninhamiana.The word "king palm " has been given to cunninghamiana in the USA but is not the name given to it in its natural environment where it is Piccabeen or Bangalow Palm. Archontophoenix alexandrae, which is taller, has a more swollen base, and has a silvery rather than green undersurface on the leaflets. Nice landscape palm, not very different from common King Palm (Archontophoenix cunninghamiana) but has more white under leaves, is a bit faster growing, slightly more tender, and has a more prominently ringed trunk. Thank you. O. F. Cook, Archontophoenix cunninghamiana crown shaft, Archontophoenix cunninghamiana rachis with leaflet attachent, Archontophoenix cunninghamiana leaflet undersurface with ramenta and scales (dried specimen), Archontophoenix cunninghamiana leaflet undersurface with ramenta, Archontophoenix cunninghamiana leaflet undersurface with ramenta (dried specimen), Archontophoenix cunninghamiana immature fruit, Archontophoenix cunninghamiana close view of fruit (MBC photo: 96217R1). They've spent there time in the shade of my home with full sun by afternoon then. Now,they get it nearly sunup to sundown. They probably are the most northern coconut and royal. While frequently seen in Sydney gardens, the Bangalow Palm is actually native to the rainforests of Australia’s central eastern coast. Funny that this should be dredged up after my old 2008 posts. MORE Palms: King Alexander STATS. Archontophoenix alexandrae. Queens are growing in Tallahassee. Also has a slightly more upright habit of the leaves (less droopy) and less likely to turn horizontally than A cunninghamiana. They were being sold under Piccabeen. Here is the heat index map per the FSU cliemate center. Nice Royal and coconut and looks somewhat protected. These are in natural habitat areas of Beerwah State Forest." i saw that it was ikea, fab! I have some Alexandria seedlings, but nothing in the ground yet. I think if anything the cunninghamiana might be 1 or 2 degrees more cold hardy but I have never seen proof of it. Davids climate might account for his experiences. Truely inspiring for those of us in inland central Florida trying to grow coconuts, royals, etc. A better, hardier Archontophoenix for many Florida gardens. Amazing too cause it got down to 24 degrees over here about 3 weeks ago. Looks best if grown in groups and in sheltered gullies. Why it took so long I can't say. The 'zebra' trunk effect is thanks to sprinklers in the area... not weird rainfall. It does, however, require a nice, moist soil in order to thrive – so water frequently, especially through summer. I'd probably call before making it, just to confirm they have any left. Below is a picture of one of our member's royals in Jax Beach. Not cheap, true. judyg, nice stackable bookshelf - low lying, which i need, open and airy. more money for shelves. It has an attractive ringed trunk and fronds are silver on the undersides. A. cunninghamiana is a bit more frost and shade tolerant than A. alexandrae (Turner and Wasson 1997). We have a few days in the 30s per year but most days are 75+ in the day and 49+ at night. That's a long trip. Alexandra palm. The Illawarra, a hilly costal region just south of Sydney and mildly popular with Australians for holidays, happens to be the southern limit of the natural distribution of Archontophoenix cunninghamiana. tagfcps that's amazing you have a couple 12 footers. Hi Sam, my contractor thinks that there was actually linoleum or some other flooring and the parquet is just laid on top of it, so I don't think it was original and I'm not a big fan of it. I doubt Jax beach saw less than 32. The underside of the leaflet midrib is lined with brown ramenta. Lab: Ramenta on the undersurface of leaflets, accompanied by tiny, brown scales. Please help. To be in the ground palms, they must be well protected. tagfcps your right it does get much colder. I realy think the cold hardiness of illawaras are badly overblown. And i hope to plant many of those those future seeds. The genus Archontophoenix has 6 species, 3 of which are considered rare. Male and female flowers are pink to lavender and are borne on the same inflorescence. Color scheme dilemma in living room. Jump to: navigation, search. (the others are Pleranda elegantissima). All the Canadians flocking to AZ and buying up property left and right seem to love the plantation shutters...in fact, it's a selling point for many homes...because: they're durable, timeless, and keep the sun out (excellent insulation) when closed and let the beautiful vistas in when open. Wow, it's amazing to see such a large, healthy coconut in Jax beach! The most noticeable difference between these palms is that A. cunninghamiana has lavender flowers where all other Archontophoenix species have white/cream colored flowers. Habitat coastal rainforest Distribution Archontophoenix cunninghamiana is found in eastern Queensland and New South Wales Growth Characteristics Height: 20m - 25m Archontophoenix alexandrae; Archontophoenix cunninghamiana; Archontophoenix maxima; Archontophoenix myolensis; Archontophoenix purpurea; Archontophoenix tuckeri; Here are some informations collected on the palms of this genus: Species of the genus Archontophoenix all have some common features. Because just today I see a bloom spike on my largest King. The King Alexander, also known as the 'King Palm', lives up to its name. The cunninghamiana is Piccabeen palm. And it can be a lot cooler inland than on the east coast... but Coconuts can grow in Orlando so? Archontophoenix cunninghamiana), which is native to south-eastern Queensland and coastal NSW. The Jax coast is comparable to the rest of the East coast of florida, but outside the coast, there are less heating days. This Australian native originates from central and northern Queensland's coastal rainforests but they are also more commonly grown in gardens across the country. It flowers in midsummer and has evergreen foliage. I have just planted some alex seeds and would like to know if perhaps I should have bought the cunninghamiana. Flowers and fruits: Inflorescence about 1 m long with many pendulous branches. lol I went by the local HD in OP yesterday and they had some A. Cunninghamiana's but they weren't the cold hardy "Illawara" palms so I didn't pick one up. DESCRIPTION: Native to Queensland and New South Wales, the Alexander or Alexandra palm establishes quickly, perfect for gardeners looking to create a tropical paradise in a hurry.Fruits in long tails of bright red berries. To me they are no diffrient than a regular king. The major difference would be the lack of heat relative to the rest of the state. Archontophoenix alexandrae can grow to a height of 15 metres with a width of 3 metres. When mature, bunches of fruit hang down below its arching leaves. Grows well in almost frost-free areas in northern New Zealand. No major problems.

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